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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Patrick Coin: Yes, this is a known issue, and it causes a lot of problems. Our Flickr taxonomy processor is pretty dumb. If you tell it genus=Lordotus and binomial=Encelia farinosa, it will put Encelia farinosa in genus Lordotus: http://eol.org/pages/54630/names?all=1 There's no validation of the generic component of a binomial against genus tags. The same problem occurs with other higher taxonomy tags. That's why we request that images with multiple organisms only be tagged at the highest taxonomic level: https://www.flickr.com/groups/encyclopedia_of_life/discuss/72157629880163919/ I know this is a problem if you know the binomial of one organism but can identify the other one only to genus or family. In that case, I would only tag with the binomial and add the other id in the description. As a curator, you can always add additional associations once the image has been imported to EOL. At that point, there is no problem mixing taxonomic levels.

    about 1 month ago

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    Mokgatla Molepo joined the community "EOL Curators".

    about 1 month ago

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    Patrick Coin commented on "EOL Curators":

    I thought I had seen a discussion of this issue in the Flickr EOL images group, but cannot find it. EOL taxon page for a bee fly, Lordotus, has images of a plant, Encelia farinosa, on it: http://eol.org/pages/54630/media I posted an image tagged as genus Lordotus, and also tagged the plant, so perhaps my image messed up something. Is this a known issue of EOL--problems with multiple taxa in one image?

    about 1 month ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: That's odd. I would expect to see the mammal page first since it has a higher richness score. I put in a search suggestion, so now the search results go directly to the springhares. Thanks!

    about 1 month ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: More dratted weevil problems: http://eol.org/search?q=pedetes&search=Go should have a top hit as springhares, not an invalid beetle taxon.

    about 1 month ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: yes,indeed i spot a lot of this...confusing.

    about 1 month ago • edited: about 1 month ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: species such as this have to be hidden, i also have problems when searching a blank page cames out,we need filling them not deleting them and i think i could help.

    about 1 month ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: that will be great,i also have the same problems for searching a species ,a wrong genus cames out.

    about 1 month ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: wow,what a pity,big problems with dividing the species,can i help too identifying any roblms,katja.

    about 1 month ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: Unfortunately, I cannot merge anything here. Colobus hemipterus Audinet-Serville, 1834 was a name for a cerambycid not a curculionid. I don't know where Colobus hemipterus Laporte, 1840 comes from. This is another bogus hierarchy derived from the infamous weevil catalogue that has been causing so many problems. Looks like Cyndy has put in the search data, so people searching for Colobus will be directed to the monkey page now.

    about 1 month ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: I think we've talked about this and it isn't easy. Meanwhile, if you send us a list of problems you encounter we can try the work around.

    about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: Re "we also have an admin tool that forces a search result to the best page even if the algorithms don't"
    At the monemt, invalid names frequently get listed higher than accepted names, which is misleading.
    Would it be possible to change the search results so that (a) accepted names are listed first above non-accepted names, and (b) within accepted names, genus names are listed above species names (so that in e.g. a search for "Abies", species in the genus Abies come higher than Picea abies).

    about 1 month ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: We can get Katja to merge the misspelling onto the right page. But we also have an admin tool that forces a search result to the best page even if the algorithms don't. We'll do both. Thanks for the catch.

    about 1 month ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    I suspect that this http://eol.org/pages/73565/overview is a spelling mistake - it's the first hit for a search for Colobus monkeys. How do go about hiding things like this?

    about 1 month ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: I agree that "cetaceans" isn't aimed at a general enough audience. You can set your preference here: http://eol.org/pages/7649/names/common_names There are a couple of good existing options to choose from.

    about 1 month ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: We don't have a policy on the choice of common names, and it will be difficult to develop objective criteria for something that's so subjective in many cases. So it's up to individual curators to make these decisions. Don't hesitate to change the preferred name if you think you can do better. If the curator who made the original decision feels strongly about their choice, they can always come back and revert. We've got quite a few people here who care about common names, and they are pretty important for making our content more accessible. So if anybody can think of criteria that should be included in the curation standards, please let us know.

    about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: One could equally argue for 'Whales, dolphins and porpoises' (since porpoises are in Cetacea, and not usually called dolphins) - there may be others, where would one end? But agreed, it's a tricky one to decide.

    about 1 month ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Curators":

    wow i hav seen much of this yan thanks for pointing.,

    about 1 month ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    Idly looking at vernacular names on EoL. I see Cetacea has a VN of "Cetaceans", which I suspect is only meaningful to biologists. I'd tend to go for "Whales & dolphins", but before I change it, is there any general guidance as to the level of familiarity that EoL aims to target? I see that @Deniz Martinez set the common name manually, which means I should be careful in this case, but I'm interested in the more general argument.

    about 1 month ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: I've hidden the confusing NatureServe text. Thanks for spotting the problem!

    about 1 month ago