Constantine Wing Heng Lau

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    Michael Wunderli commented on "EOL Curators":

    I was checking out this plant page. http://eol.org/pages/29365454/overview There are no pictures for this plant on eol, but when i search the web, it seem's like there are a lot of pictures available, why does eol not use them? how can I change that?

    over 1 year ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Gianluca Polgar: Yep! And not just genera, often species too - for example, genetic data has shown that Cervus canadensis is a separate species from Cervus elaphus; if included in it as a subspecies then Cervus elaphus becomes paraphyletic with respect to Cervus nippon. Yet all the Cervus canadensis photos appear on the Cervus elaphus page here, because some of the data providers have not yet updated their databases and do still treat it as a subspecies.

    over 1 year ago

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    Gianluca Polgar commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: OMG this IS a problem! Can you imagine how many objects being inappropriately associated are now in the pages of each and every genus and suprageneric taxon?? If there is no AUTOMATIC update of all objects' associations from the species level up to all supraspecific taxa (with a "bottom-up" strategy), there is no way to cope with this mess. Taxonomy is inherently unstable: this problem will only get worse and worse, as classifications are updated.... Of course, such process should be probably applied independently to the different classifications adopted by the EOL.

    over 1 year ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Gianluca Polgar: Not a taxon area I'm familiar with, so had to look it up - the Scartelaos histophorus photos appear under Apocryptes as Apocryptes macrophthalmus is a valid synonym of Scartelaos histophorus (ref). Unfortunately, no way at the moment that it can be set so the Scartelaos pics don't appear under Apocryptes. That sort of taxon delinking is a facility I'd like to be able to do as well, should it become possible in the future.

    over 1 year ago

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    Gianluca Polgar commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: sorry I can't understand :-) When I open the page of the media of Apocryptes I visualise 33 files, each not depicting an Apocryptes sp.; if I want to disable the inclusion of a given photo of Scartelaos histophorus in this page, I must act on that photo. If I open that photo its headline correctly reports the name S. histophorus... on the right, I only find 2 links and 2 choice-lists (I'm not sure of their technical name): 1) the link reporting the species correctly opens the page of S. histophorus; 2) the link "add new association" allows me to add an association with another species, if I select one database among those that are suggested (Worms, Fishbase, Itis, etc.); 3) the "choice-lists" to mark the photo as trusted/untrusted/unreviewed and visible/not visible. All these commands appear to be useless if I want to mark it as untrusted ONLY in the page of the genus Apocryptes. 2) while on the right of each photo there is a list of its associations (each of them being trusted/untrusted, etc.), there is no trace of the association of a photo with different genera... i.e. there is no association of Scartelaos with the genus Apocryptes. If I mark it as untrusted, it will just appear as untrusted in all pages. 3) if I open the page of the species Apocryptes bato (this genus is monotypic), there are no media uploaded. The consequence is that there are photos and videos associated with the genus Apocryptes, but not with its species. I can understand that this might be useful if one cannot discriminate a photo to the species level, and associates it with a genus... but in this case this association should be visible on the right of that photo. Otherwise, how could curators curate it? Furthermore, wouldn't it be much more straightforward to automatically add all the media added to the species to the page of the genus?

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Gianluca Polgar: That's because at some point in history, some authors at least have included Scartelaos histophorus in one or other of those other genera. You'll find thousands of similar examples elsewhere on EOL; the thing to do is trust (or untrust) the image in respect of its headline name, not the page on which it appears.

    When an image is not the taxon in its headline name, then you can untrust it for that name, and click on 'add new association' (just above-right of the headline name), and enter the correct name there.

    over 1 year ago

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    Gianluca Polgar commented on "EOL Curators":

    In the media of the pages of the genera Apocryptes and Apocryptodon (Gobiidae) I found photos of several species from different genera (even from different families!). When I marked one of these photos, a photo of Scartelaos histophorus, as "untrusted", it appeared as "untrusted" also in the page of S. histophorus... Nonetheless, this photo was indeed of a S. histophorus! I am confused: aren't the photos displayed in the pages of genera picked up from the photos of the congeners included in the genus? More in general: how a photo which must be marked as untrusted for a given taxon can be assigned to another taxon?

    over 1 year ago

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    Patrick Coin commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: Oh, fine. I set one of the decent photos from EOL as exemplar, so it will look a bit better now.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    Ah, you have encountered a rare "Photosynth" which is a series of images that ought to be stitched together into a 3D rotating image. You are correct that we should be handling these better. Please ignore for now and we'll try to get a programmer to do something about it.

    over 1 year ago

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    Patrick Coin commented on "EOL Curators":

    Here is an editorial issue, I feel. The media collection for the Harlequin Beetle, Acrocinus longimanus, is a mess. There are almost 300 images, most of them repetitive detail shots of specimens, and also low resolution images of specimen trays. Unless there is some curatorial/research purpose for these that I do not understand , almost the whole lot needs to be hidden so that the few useful images can be browsed. This would take a curator a very long time to do individually. Is there any way an administrator/programmer can do this in some sort of batch process? To me, the volume of media there really detracts from the species account. (Again, unless there is some documentary purpose for these images that is not obvious to me.)

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    Folks, I want to apologize for those of you who are trying to change your notification settings so you don't get so many messages from this discussion group or EOL in general. The password reset mail is often caught in spam filters and we're working to try to fix that. In the meantime, please use the "Contact us" link at the bottom of the page to send a message relating to Membership and Registration and we'll be happy to adjust things for you.

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: It looks like Wikimedia Commons was last harvested on 3 July. Usually it gets refreshed more frequently, but I know it's a tricky harvest that often needs manual intervention. Our content important team is currently short-handed and in the middle of a big project with global partners. So it's possible that harvesting of complicated resources is a little slower than usual.

    over 1 year ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    Problems with Wiki Commons harvest?

    There's been no new harvest of pics from Wiki Commons since 21 June; pics added to Commons pages on 22 June and subsequently have not appeared here yet. Is there a particular known problem causing this?

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    Just to clarify things for people who are not familiar with all those abbreviations: CC refers to creative commons licenses, which are required for all EOL content that is not in the public domain; NC refers to the non-commercial restriction which is compatible with the EOL licensing policy; ND refers to the no derivatives restriction, which prevents others from re-using the content in the creation of new, related works. The ND restriction is not compatible with the EOL licensing policy. All creative commons licenses require attribution, so credit for the creator of the original work is always assured.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Robert Guralnick: NC is allowed (for better or worse), but ND is not.

    over 1 year ago

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    Robert Guralnick commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: "NC" or "ND"?

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    For EOL it has to be unrestricted for derivative use, so if the CC license has "ND" in it then I'm afraid we can't use it. All other CC licenses are okay.

    over 1 year ago

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    Maggie Whitson commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: Thanks, Cyndy I may have to resort to that. It looked to me, though, like the license was already fine for non-commercial use. I'm still figuring out the differences between all of these license types.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Maggie Whitson: If you contact the photographers and invite them to change the licenses to one of those that EOL accepts, they could let CalPhotos know and then the photos can come over in the weekly update. But it might be a long shot.

    over 1 year ago