Jennifer Smith

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    Just looking for good images that are used in WikiSpecies, but not on EoL. Is there any reason why, for example, the nice image at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Condylura_cristata isn't being picked up. As far as I can see it meets the criteria at http://eol.org/info/curate_wiki#commons

    almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr:

    I've written a little blog post about my first look at the problem of identifying maps. The plot on that page shows that just using the compression metrics seems to work extraordinarily well, at least for my limited dataset. http://yanwong.me/?p=709

    p.s. not sure this "map" that I picked up should be in EoL anyway: http://eol.org/data_objects/5853197

    p.p.s. Cyndy: I've just done a plot with all the images in your "Retag as map type" collection added (in magenta) - with this larger dataset just using jpg vs gif compression seems to work best, although adding PNG compression data as well would probably help remove a few of the false positives. See the plot at http://yanwong.me/MapImageTest.pdf - the numbers on each point are dataobject IDs, so you can find the corresponding pictures on EoL

    almost 2 years ago • edited: almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL API Discussion Group":

    Hi - new here. I've a few of specific questions about the page API - perhaps there is some detailed documentation somewhere?

    1) what are the possible values for the "vettedStatus" parameter on dataObjects? I'm guessing Trusted, Unreviewed, then Unknown?

    2) what order are the dataObjects returned in? I'm trying to grab a single public domain or CC-BY image for each species, and I'd like the one with the most trustworthy vettedStatus, and if several with the same value, the one with the highest dataRating. I imagine this is the most likely order to want. At the moment I'm just grabbing the first 10, and sorting them myself, but it would be less strain on EoL bandwidth to simply ask for a single image, with the appropriate sort order.

    p.s. - it's not clear to me what HTML formatting is allowed in posts on this group. Might it be an idea to put a link in to a page detailing how to use the discussion groups appropriately? I see I'm allowed <small> :)

    Cheers

    almost 2 years ago • edited: almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: I've just had a quick play with classifying map images on EoL - since I've downloaded 738 pd/cc-by images to play with, of which 25 are maps (one for each placental mammal, as it happens). A first-pass is to see how well they compress using different methods. If you plot the compression ratios achieved using jpg and png compression, a good whack of the maps cluster in an obvious group. Have a look at http://www.yanwong.me/placentalmapclassification.pdf (images that are maps are marked in red). The EoL image name is written in tiny letters on each point, if you want to check up on them, but I don't know if these are unique names. It might take a few minutes longer for me to figure out how to put the EoL object id there instead. I've got a quick perl script that will calculate this in-memory, without saving jpg and png files to disk - you could try it on your maps collection. I've also got a few ideas for improving the clustering, but it seems a reasonable start.

    almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: Ah - thanks.

    almost 2 years ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Nope, go to http://www.iucnredlist.org/search and search for Apis mellifera. It hasn't been assessed yet. Assessment is an arduous process and looks like only about 4000 insects have been looked at. I looked at a few and they were lepidoptera and odonates. Only 165 hymenoptera are on the list.

    almost 2 years ago • edited: almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Roderic Page: Thanks Rod (by the way, I'm an ex-student of yours). Still puzzled that there isn't IUCN data for the default page search on Apis mellifera - I assume IUCN knows about this one :)

    almost 2 years ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: For historical reasons, we have two paths for info from IUCN...one for the status field at the top of the overview, and the other for the content on the details tab. I think the latter has the most up-to-date data even for the status field and we should look into getting rid of the former collection to avoid confusion.

    almost 2 years ago

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    Roderic Page commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: The vast majority of species on the planet are not covered by the IUCN (nor are they likely to be). The IUCN site suggests some 65,000 species have been assessed http://www.iucnredlist.org/about/summary-statistics (see Fig. 2). EOL has two IUCN lists (why?), the largest http://eol.org/collections/309 has 63097 taxa.

    almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: Thanks a lot. I've joined the API community now. Is there any reason when I go to http://eol.org/api/docs/pages/1.0 and run the default test search but with IUCN=true, I don't get any IUCN data? I thought that every species had an IUCN classification?

    almost 2 years ago

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    almost 2 years ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Vernacular names data often comes to EOL dirty (or we mangle it, not sure which yet). Any curator can fix it by going to the common names tab such as http://eol.org/pages/328450/names/common_names (I fixed Mus musculus. Though I don't know the best French name I picked the one that had the most sources). If you regularly get scientific names as vernaculars, you might want to design your program to go back and get another vernacular. There are often other options in each language. Also, I invite you to join our API community. http://eol.org/communities/121/newsfeed

    almost 2 years ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Maps as images are a frustrating problem. I'm manually collecting examples in this collection: http://eol.org/collections/23389 . The problem is that often our providers can't tell us that they are maps. In other cases we just don't have the time to go back to providers and revise the exports. Someone could probably write code to automatically flag possible maps based on image or caption characteristics. Google Summer of Code project, anyone?

    almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    By the way, I'm no expert in French, but surely this can't be a correct "vernacular name" returned by the pages API: { "vernacularName": "Mus musculus", "language": "fr", "eol_preferred": true },

    almost 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    I'm trying to automatically scrape images of organisms for http://www.onezoom.org/ . Some of the images associated with species are distribution maps (e.g. http://eol.org/data_objects/14840166), and I'm getting some of these in my downloads. Is there a system for identifying and flagging these up as maps rather than organism images? Also, I have some automated scripts to get images & construct image attribution lines from a large file of species names, if anyone is interested.

    almost 2 years ago

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    Anne Thessen commented on "EOL API Discussion Group":

    @Patrick Leary: I don't particularly need xml. I have been playing around with the json most of today, but I'm not having much luck there either. I can load the json okay (I think) but it doesn't want to recognize any of the nested dictionaries and dictionaries.

    almost 2 years ago

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    Anne Thessen commented on "EOL API Discussion Group":

    @Roderic Page: Interesting that the tags in the xml you link to is different from what the API returned to me for another species....

    almost 2 years ago

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    Roderic Page commented on "EOL API Discussion Group":

    @Patrick Leary: JSON FTW ;)

    almost 2 years ago