Kathy Hill

Cicada researcher

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    Maria del Rosario Castañeda joined the community "Scratchpads Community".

    over 2 years ago

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    Bob Corrigan commented on "Scratchpads Community":

    @Eli Sarnat: We had originally thought about calling that feature "bookmarks", but the concept of collections took over (I'm glad it did).

    over 2 years ago

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    Eli Sarnat commented on "Scratchpads Community":

    @Jennifer Hammock: I think bookmarks might be the top contender. Thanks, Jen!

    over 2 years ago

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    Jennifer Hammock commented on "Scratchpads Community":

    @Eli Sarnat: Good idea, Eli! The other common term I've heard is bookmarks.

    over 2 years ago

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    Eli Sarnat commented on "Scratchpads Community":

    ah, I realize I must have gotten this idea from EOL's 'add to collection' feature!

    over 2 years ago

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    Eli Sarnat commented on "Scratchpads Community":

    Hi folks, I'm working with a drupal developer to add some more modules and help with existing issues for Scratchpads. One module we're developing is a 'Favorites' feature, which allows users to flag any content type as a 'favorite', and it gets added to a 'my favorites' block arranged by category type. The idea is for users to have quick links to content they frequently use or want to keep track of. Just wanted to put this idea out there in case someone here has suggestions or comments on how to improve it. For example, can anyone think of a better name than 'favorites'? One alternative I'm considering is 'My Collection', with 'add to collection' and 'remove from collection' links.

    over 2 years ago

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    Bob Corrigan commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Roderic Page: Here are some of the use cases that are pointing to this "link object" - a news story on taxon FOO, a website with an identification resource, a project website, even (heaven help us) a link to a publication, all stuff we can't import but stuff we want to point to. The justification behind making these "objects" is that they become curate-able, rank-able, collect-able and accessible via the API. The problem here may be that the term "link object" collides with "linked open data" which is an entirely different animal.

    over 2 years ago

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    geopense commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Roderic Page: All good points, Roderic, thanks, all read and understood. It will be nice to have a choice. BTW I really agree with your Internet Archive point. That effort is really useful.

    over 2 years ago

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    Roderic Page commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: OK, now I see the context. EOL news feeds really need threads.

    over 2 years ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Roderic Page: In this case, I think Bart C wanted to link to a Citizen Science project. So the link involved was not so much to data but to a set of tools and a specialized community that wouldn't make much sense to bring into EOL. Otherwise I agree with most of what you say.

    over 2 years ago

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    Roderic Page commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @geopense: @Bob Corrigan: Just to be contrary, "trying to drag it around" (assuming this is the same as aggregating the data in one place) is often much more powerful than simply linking. Linking assumes that the data being linked to is clean (it usually isn't), that the link has a meaningful, stable identifier (mostly it won't) and that the content being linked to won't disappear (a lot of content will).

    In my experience data is messy and needs to be cleaned, and the best way to do this is aggregate it in one place where you can compare it to other data. I spend a lot of time with taxonomic and bibliographic data, and it's messy, inaccurate, and incomplete (even from so-called "trusted" sources). Having it in one place has big payoffs in terms of being able to resolve ambiguities and clean data.

    Most resources lack stable identifiers, which means links will break. There are mechanisms to deal with this (e.g., redirection using DOIs or PURLs) but most resources haven't bought into these approaches. Hence we get link rot.

    Lastly, I suspect EOL will by default play a role similar to the Internet Archive. A lot of content from original providers may disappear at the place of origin, but be archived at EOL. This is one area we need to think like Google. They effectively have a "copy" of the web, and that gives them enormous power when they come to build algorithms to search the web.

    People are hung up on "rights". I get that, but these hang ups will get in the way of making progress. What I think people are really after is provenance and credit. Tackle those issues, and don't sacrifice the power of aggregation, otherwise EOL misses a huge opportunity to reconcile the messy data of biodiversity.

    over 2 years ago

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    geopense commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Bob Corrigan: Yes, that's the smart way to go. Leave content in its original (rights) location and just link to it instead of trying to drag it around

    over 2 years ago

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    Bart C. commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: Ok, done that (http://eol.org/pages/4051060/resources/citizen_science). But I didn't find a way to link it directly to the original page. Hopefully next time I can use the "link object". Sounds great!

    over 2 years ago

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    Ximo Mengual commented on "Rubenstein Fellows":

    @Jennifer Hammock: Thanks Jen! I will keep that in mind and eventually upload it.

    over 2 years ago

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    Jennifer Hammock commented on "Rubenstein Fellows":

    A nice piece on Stijn Cooleman's Lifedesk for those of you who read french or dutch

    Thanks for the tip, Stijn! Don't be shy, everyone, about reporting publicity you receive in languages other than English. Our international audience would love to read about your adventures!

    over 2 years ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Bart C.: For now, you can leave most of those fields blank or set to the defaults. If you have borrowed explanatory text from the citizen science project (with their permission) ask them which license they want and put their name in the rights holder field. You can see two examples I just did last week on the Monarch page.

    over 2 years ago

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    eoleducation commented on "Rubenstein Fellows":

    Hi EOL Fellows- some great opportunities through the National Evolutionary Synthesis Center (NESCent) can be found here: http://www.nescent.org/science/proposals.php

    over 2 years ago

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    Jennifer Hammock commented on "Rubenstein Fellows":

    @Ximo Mengual: Hi, Ximo! You can make your LD classification available via this method: http://syrphidae.lifedesks.org/admin/classification/biological/export/share. Put the url to your exported classification as an additional resource in your Content Partner account and let me know when it's up. Note that this is a manual publication- you can update whenever you like (we suggest not more than quarterly) so we strongly advise you to put a version number or date in the title and citation. Eventually we'll replace this resource in your CP account with the Scratchpads equivalent, after you're migrated, but that won't be for a few quarters, I expect.

    over 2 years ago