Matthew Murphy

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: Not entirely sure how it works, but it apparently looks at different parts of a name independently. We'll put all this on our list of things to consider when the search algorithm gets revised. I'm not sure when this will happen, though.

    5 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: Sorry, not sure why that should be? After all, Ara c isn't a one letter combination, it's a four letter combination, or five if the space is included as a 'letter' (which it should be). Maybe the search system is failing to include spaces, and if so, could that be changed?

    5 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: I imagine there is a trade-off here with the efficiency of the search. We've got gazillions of names, and a two letter combination matches a much larger set of names than a three letter combination. Requiring at least three letters to initiate the search probably reduces the load on the system.

    5 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: Thanks! I guessed that would be the reason. Would it not be possible to prioritise scientific names over common?

    A somewhat related problem is that when entering a genus name and the start of a species name, the search won't offer a drop-down until at least three letters of the species name have been added: enter "Ara", the drop-down appears, but then it vanishes on adding a space, and won't reappear with "c" or "ch" but only once "chl" has been added, when Ara chloropterus finally appears. This is a nuisance when one can remember the first letter or two of a species name in a large genus, but can't remember the exact spelling of the rest of the name.

    5 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: Everything else is unrelated to the macaw genus, but all the taxa that appear in the list do have "ara" somewhere in their common or scientific name. Apparently, the search algorithm looks for common name matches first. That's why there's a fish at the top of the list. I have added Ara to the list of common names for the macaw genus. I'm hoping that this will put this genus at the top of the list. In general, these very short name strings are tricky for a search algorithm because there are so many hits. It's difficult to devise an algorithm that gets the desired result in all cases.

    5 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    Another example of listing problems - put the genus name Ara in the search; the genus itself appears in the drop-down selection, but none of its species do; everything else is unrelated.

    5 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Mareike Keuters: That was a mistake. It's now fixed. Sometimes our names algorithm keeps things apart that should be together or it combines things that should be on separate pages. So we have to a little manual clean-up here & there. Whenever you notice such inconsistencies, you can report them in the Taxon Clean-Up To Do List (for taxa that should be merged or split) or Misplaced EOL Content collection (when things are in the wrong place, e.g. images of animals in plant media collections). Thanks!

    5 months ago

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    Mareike Keuters commented on "EOL Curators":

    What is the difference between the two "Tanacetum cinerariifolium". Why must be there two of them? ;)

    5 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: Thanks Katja. The ones I've seen have all been 700 or 750px max, so perhaps those are considered PD. That would be great if so - and if that's right, perhaps it could be mentioned on their site or on the EoL content provide page. I would log to be able to treat the 700px images as public domain ones.

    6 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: I remember this coming up a few years ago. When we talked to the BioLib people about this they explained that the large version on their site was All Rights Reserved, but the smaller version they sent to EOL was public domain. However, it looks like we have a pretty large version of the image you found, so their may be an error in their export scripts. Either they shouldn't send us these images at all or they should send us only scaled-down versions.

    6 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Yes, we are getting images from FishBase: http://eol.org/collections/197 No idea why this one is missed. Will try to find out.

    6 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    I'm coming across a lot of BioLib photos that are copyrighted and do not have an EoL compatible license (e.g. http://eol.org/data_objects/5818489) but which are listed on EoL as public domain. Should I mark these as hidden until the BioLib harvester is sorted out properly?

    6 months ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: It is a problem that curation might be able to solve. I've responded in the forum. Will talk to Katja soon.

    6 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    Does EoL take images from FishBase? For instance, http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/PicturesSummary.php?ID=5786&what=species&picname=Gyphi_u1.jpg is a nice CC-BY-NC image, but it's not on EoL that I can see.

    6 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    Is this (http://eol.org/forums/2/topics/83) an API problem or a curation one? I'm surprised that a search for "Inia geoffrensis" from the front page doesn't have the main species page as the top hit.

    6 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Mokgatla Molepo:

    Welcome to EOL. I have upgraded your EOL account to full curator status. As a full curator, you can add, sort, endorse, or reject EOL content. Detailed instructions are provided on the Information for Curators page: http://eol.org/info/curation

    For guidance on how to wield your curator powers, please see the EOL Curation Standards: http://eol.org/info/curation_standards

    When you are logged into the EOL site, you will see a CURATORS link next to your profile image at the top of each EOL page. This will lead you to the EOL Curators page which has links to the Information for Curators and Curation Standards pages at the bottom.

    6 months ago • edited: 6 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Patrick Coin: Yes, this is a known issue, and it causes a lot of problems. Our Flickr taxonomy processor is pretty dumb. If you tell it genus=Lordotus and binomial=Encelia farinosa, it will put Encelia farinosa in genus Lordotus: http://eol.org/pages/54630/names?all=1 There's no validation of the generic component of a binomial against genus tags. The same problem occurs with other higher taxonomy tags. That's why we request that images with multiple organisms only be tagged at the highest taxonomic level: https://www.flickr.com/groups/encyclopedia_of_life/discuss/72157629880163919/ I know this is a problem if you know the binomial of one organism but can identify the other one only to genus or family. In that case, I would only tag with the binomial and add the other id in the description. As a curator, you can always add additional associations once the image has been imported to EOL. At that point, there is no problem mixing taxonomic levels.

    6 months ago

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    Patrick Coin commented on "EOL Curators":

    I thought I had seen a discussion of this issue in the Flickr EOL images group, but cannot find it. EOL taxon page for a bee fly, Lordotus, has images of a plant, Encelia farinosa, on it: http://eol.org/pages/54630/media I posted an image tagged as genus Lordotus, and also tagged the plant, so perhaps my image messed up something. Is this a known issue of EOL--problems with multiple taxa in one image?

    6 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: That's odd. I would expect to see the mammal page first since it has a higher richness score. I put in a search suggestion, so now the search results go directly to the springhares. Thanks!

    6 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: More dratted weevil problems: http://eol.org/search?q=pedetes&search=Go should have a top hit as springhares, not an invalid beetle taxon.

    6 months ago