Beth Sanzenbacher

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    Marie Studer commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Kelly O'Donnell: Hi Kelly! If you don't have a species list to start with, it will be better to go ahead and use iNat to set up the project. It will be important to remind people who join your project on iNat to select non-restrictive licenses both for their observations and their images. Have you see our other BioBlitz resources: http://eol.org/info/disc_bioblitz? Feel free to contact me at mstuder@eol.org for more info. I'd be very happy to share what I've learned about using EOL and iNat for BioBlitzes.

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Kelly O'Donnell commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    I'm organizing a BioBlitz at the end of the summer. I'd like to use iNaturalist/EOL to collect the observations. Does anyone have recommendations about where to set this up? I'm wondering if it makes more sense to have the project set up in iNaturalist and then get harvested into EOL because we won't have a specific list of taxa to create an EOL collection to start with. Any recommendations? Thanks!

    over 1 year ago

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    Kelly O'Donnell joined the community "iNaturalist on EOL".

    over 1 year ago

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    Jakob Fahr commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Scott Loarie: Hi Scott & Cyndy, thanks for this, from my side no need to rush as it seems to involve a bunch of issues. First of all, I definitely do not want to get rid of all the taxonomic changes & additions we've added over the last months on iNat, especially as these are nicely referenced and documented. Second, most of the discrepancies stem from different usage/definition of genera, e.g. all African Chalinolobus on EOL should be Glauconycteris (large consensus in the recent taxonomic & phylogenetic literature). On iNat, we're currently sticking to the broadly defined genera Pipistrellus s.l. (rather than split into Pipistrellus s.s., Neoromicia, Hypsugo etc,), and similarly to Tadarida s.l. rather than Tadarida s.s., Chaerephon and Mops since the generic definitions are likely to change in due course (actually working on a revision of a paper....). Third, I'm working on a phylogeny of all African taxa, which is available through the AfriBats Lifedesk site. I could align this taxonomy with iNat's taxonomy, and if the Lifedesk taxonomy gets imported into EOL, set this as the preferred taxonomy for African taxa on EOL. Let me know if this is a sensible approach. Some of the strange taxa that Scott mentioned originate from GenBank where taxa have been submitted with these abbreviations before they were formally described. All in all quite a mess, requiring a lot of cleaning and mapping the synonymies, but I think we shouldn't rush this but come up with a solution that minimizes curatorial work, wherever this is best accomplished. Cheers, Jakob

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Scott Loarie commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Cyndy Parr: Hi guys, the iNat Afribats checklist has 288 sp & spp: http://www.inaturalist.org/lists/57284-AfriBatss-Check-List The EOL Afribats list has 281: http://www.inaturalist.org/lists/86723-AfriBats-EOL-Collections-Check-List We can hook these together, but this means the EOL list will be the master so it will delete these taxa that are only on the iNat list: Asellia italosomalica Coleura kibomalandy Glauconycteris beatrix Glauconycteris variegata Miniopterus aelleni Miniopterus brachytragos Miniopterus egeri Miniopterus mahafaliensis Mormopterus francoismoutoui Myonycteris angolensis Myotis anjouanensis Paratriaenops pauliani Paremballonura atrata Paremballonura tiavato Pipistrellus lanzai Pipistrellus robertsi Pipistrellus roseveari Pteropus seychellensis Rhinolophus cohenae Rhinolophus mabuensis Rhinolophus mossambicus Rhinolophus smithersi Rhinopoma cystops Stenonycteris lanosus Tadarida atsinanana Tadarida bakarii It will also add these which aren't on the iNat list: Chalinolobus beatrix Chalinolobus beatrix humeralis Chalinolobus variegatus Chalinolobus variegatus machadoi Emballonura atrata Emballonura tiavato Eptesicus malagasyensis Miniopterus s Mormopterus s Neoromicia malagasyensis Neoromicia nanus minusculus Neoromicia somalicus ugandae Pipistrellus nanus helios Plerotes anchietai Rhinolophus c Rousettus angolensis Rousettus lanosus Triaenops pauliani Triaenops persicus The upside of this is Jakob can just manage the list on EOL and it will keep the iNat list in sync - the downside is someone adds an observation of something not on the synced list, each night when EOL and iNat sync it will delete the missing taxon from the list and kick any obs attached to that taxon from the project - should we link them? A couple other weird things I noticed, iNat thinks the species names for these Miniopterus s, Mormopterus s & Rhinolophus c are s and c. iNat is currently using Pipistrellus somalicus instead of Neoromicia somalicus, so if you want Neoromicia somalicus ugandae as in the EOL list you should curate those taxa on iNat. Also Myotis welwitschii came through EOL as "myotis welwitschii"

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Cyndy Parr: Unfortunately, the Flickr version takes precedence right now, because it's the source. We should really change that some time.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Jakob Fahr: I took a gamble and added the EOL Afribats collection into the EOL iNat collections. But that may not be the way to do it. Maybe Scott Loarie can advise. I agree you should have to manage the list in only one place, and have the iNat map showing on EOL. However, I'm not sure the software is currently set up for you to manage it in iNat and have that synchronize with EOL.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr added "AfriBats" to the collection "iNaturalist Collections".

    over 1 year ago

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    Jakob Fahr commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Cyndy Parr: Hi Cindy, thanks for the welcome, I'm new to EOL, so still figuring out the different possibilities & functionalities. Rather than establishing a new EOL collection as an iNat project, is there a way to feed directly into an EOL collection from an iNat project? The background of my question is an established project on iNat (AfriBats), and I look for solutions that minimize duplication of efforts in terms of curation: http://www.inaturalist.org/projects/afribats

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Jakob Fahr: Welcome to the group Jakob. Let us know if there is an EOL collection you would like to establish as an iNaturalist project.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    @Yan Wong: Yes, we have included a de-duplication step so that we shouldn't get the images twice. I'm hoping we get the iNat version, as it will be trusted. Katja will know.

    over 1 year ago

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    Jakob Fahr joined the community "iNaturalist on EOL".

    over 1 year ago

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    Yan Wong joined the community "iNaturalist on EOL".

    over 1 year ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "iNaturalist on EOL":

    Hi. I have loaded a set of photos onto Flickr and added them to the EoL Flickr group. But I've also imported them into iNaturalist. I assume the EoL software is sensible enough not to import two copies? How are conflicts resolved, e.g. if the pictures are set to "research grade" on iNaturalist, will this lead to them being listed as trusted in EoL, even though an identical picture comes from the "untrusted" Flickr source?

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Tracy Barbaro changed the description of the community "iNaturalist on EOL".

    over 1 year ago

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    Tracy Barbaro added "Helena National Forest" to the collection "iNaturalist Collections".

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michael Wunderli: If you find a source that has information about these spiders, we can try to engage them as a content partner. They would have to be willing to release their content under a creative commons license, though. In this particular example, we could grab (i.e., copy & paste manually) the original description from BHL along with a few anatomical drawings for this species (could be uploaded through our Rapid Response LifeDesk). Unfortunately, there was no habitus drawing in the original description. For many of these species it may be difficult to get anything beyond the original description, and many may never have been illustrated fully.

    over 1 year ago

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    Michael Wunderli commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: What i meant was that for exaple here: http://eol.org/pages/1181577/details This species for example is present but has no pictures and no detail information. That was the case with most species I found on that website. Is there something we can do about that?

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michael Wunderli: All the Haploclastus species are here: http://eol.org/pages/111544/overview Or is that not what you meant?

    over 1 year ago