Michаel Frаnkis

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan - "Since you're MPF let me say thanks for all your hard work on Commons classifications. I see you have been tasking yourself with the problem of overcategorization on Commons. I was wondering if we should also try harvesting from child categories of taxonomic entries on Commons"

    Thanks! ;-)
    Harvesting from subcategories ('child categories') is something I've actually been meaning to raise here for a while; yes, I think we should do it, but should be selective in what we do it for. The obvious solution is to add taxonav templates to the categories desired. I've already done so for a few, such as behavioural-based Milvus milvus in flight (170 pics), a species far more often seen in flight than on the ground (Milvus milvus: 16 pics), and location-based Pelecanus onocrotalus in Tanzania (adds an extra 22 pics of natural individuals). It's in my plans to step up the number of such subcategories I add taxonav boxes to. Conversely, I think we should not do it for subcategories like Category:XXX_in_zoos, Category:XXX_(captive), Category:XXX_(cultivated), and similar, as captive / cultivated specimens are (a) much more often misidentified than those in their native habitat, and (b) often atypical in morphology and / or behaviour. With many of such subcategories too, it brings us back to EoL's policy of not wanting to be swamped in photos of pets (a policy with which I agree strongly).

    Adding taxonav templates to suitable subcategories is obviously time-consuming, but is I reckon better (and faster) than selecting pics to add to galleries; and, as you suspect, there are many on Wiki Commons who favour abandoning galleries altogether.

    Hope this helps!

    about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan - "Are we OK with removing the space between the × and the following genus or species name? I gather that's what's recommended by ICBN" - I'd say, definitely not. This is what used to be recommended by ICBN in the 1999 and earlier versions, but was probably also the most widely ignored specification in the ICBN. A while back I did a casual survey of botanical journals and textbooks, and found about 80% of sources checked did use a space after the hybrid symbol. This is now reflected in the changes in newer versions of ICBN (2005 & 2011), which now read:

    "H.3A.1. In named hybrids, the multiplication sign × belongs with the name or epithet but is not actually part of it, and its placement should reflect that relation. The exact amount of space, if any, between the multiplication sign and the initial letter of the name or epithet should depend on what best serves readability."

    A space on both sides of the hybrid symbol definitely serves readability best; if not included, consider e.g. the risk of confusion between the species Rosa xanthina, and the hypothetical hybrid "Rosa ×anthina"; spacing this as Rosa × anthina greatly reduces this risk. It is for this reason that Wiki Commons (and en:wikipedia) include a space after the hybrid symbol.

    about 1 month ago • edited: about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan - "(I see someone's changed it, are you MPF :)" - yep, that's me! I took the taxonav out of the page, as of course cultivars are not biological taxa, so shouldn't have any taxonav. I don't know how many other cultivar pages / categories will have been given taxonavs; fortunately probably not very many.

    about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan - re "How are these distinguished in wikimedia Taxonavigation boxes? Do people put Subspecies | salzmannii, Variatas | mongolica, etc...." - sorry, missed this one! Yes, the template inserts the "subsp." and "var.". And yes, species can have both subspecies and varieties; e.g. Pinus nigra subsp. salzmannii var. corsicana for the Corsican Pine.

    about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan, That one is a cultivar; very low priority for EoL (much like we ask people not to add photos of their pets), I'd not bother with any harvesting criteria for picking them up.

    about 1 month ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks! Unfortunately I don't understand all the computer coding (not my thing, I fear), but if it works, good. The difference between zoology and botany is that zoology only has one infraspecific rank (subspecies), so a subspecific name doesn't need any clarification other than having three names; thus e.g. Dendrocopos major pinetorum. Conversely, in botany, there are three infraspecific ranks, in order of decreasing distinction: subspecies (subsp.; for major differences in a species), varietas (var.; for medium differences), forma (f.; very small differences); of these the first two are widely used, forma rather less so. Because of the different ranks, it is essential to state which rank is being used, thus e.g. Pinus nigra subsp. salzmannii; Pinus sylvestris var. mongolica; Abies veitchii f. chlorocarpa. For definitions of the ranks, see e.g. definitions in Table 12.1 in Stuessy (2009), Principles of Plant Taxonomy (p. 158, available on google books).

    2 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks! I fear the github code means nothing to me :-( but if it can be adapted to add subspecies (used in both botany and zoology, but formatted differently in the two groups) and varietas (used in botany only), that would be a great help. Hybrids are less important, and I'd not bother to add cultivars (very few have commons pages with taxonav., and they are also of very minor significance for EoL).

    2 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    Odd, as the taxonavigation is correctly formatted in both the category and gallery. Perhaps something else on the pages is blocking the harvest? Maybe Yan can sort it?

    2 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    Just checked up, Wiki Commons does, treating it as Felis silvestris catus. I'm not sure that's taxonomically valid (as domesticated cats aren't a seperate genetic group from other Felis silvestris subspp), but it is nomenclaturally valid.

    2 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    Why are there two separate pages for Felis silvestris and Felis catus? The two names refer to the same species; if I recall the ICZN correctly, names based on domesticated type specimens, even if older, are treated as synonyms of names based on type specimens of the same taxon of natural wild origin. On this basis, Felis catus should be merged into Felis silvestris. I see the Felis silvestris page already has a few domesticated cats in its images section.

    2 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "Image of Abies concolor":

    See comments below

    3 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "Image of Abies concolor":

    Yes, could very well be A. grandis, though A. c. subsp. lowiana is possible too (though this is much less common in cultivation than A. grandis). It is a cultivated specimen of unknown / undocumented origin, so of little value; I'll mark it hidden.

    3 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "File:Abies concolor 08114.jpg":

    This one is as labelled, Abies concolor subsp. lowiana; it is shaded lower-crown foliage, which is flatter than foliage in the upper crown. The specimen is verified wild origin, from the Mariposa Grove in Yosemite National Park.

    3 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on Michаel Frаnkis's newsfeed:

    @Michаel Frаnkis: Ah, OK, found them on Marc's 'Comments submitted'

    3 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on Michаel Frаnkis's newsfeed:

    @Katja Schulz: Will do, but I need to be able to see the pictures . . . can you add links to them, please ;-)

    3 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Cyndy Parr: Thanks! Another taxon-specific one needed is to change 'litters' to 'broods' for Aves. Maybe for some Mammalia too, I'd not think of a baby Elephas maximus as 'litter'!
    On spelling variants, I think this is better done by taxon, depending on the region they are from, so just as 'colour' is correct for old world taxa, so is 'color' for new world taxa.
    I'll take a look at promoting / removing items; I couldn't work out how to do it before.

    5 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    "EOL has data for ... traits" Is this new feature editable for curators? There are times where the grouping terms are not appropriate for the taxon concerned, such as 'flower' and 'fruit' for Gymnosperms (should be 'strobili' or 'cones'), or 'color' for European, Australian, etc. taxa (should be 'colour'), and other cases where the datum given is incorrect (e.g. for Pinus albicaulis cones, 'brown' should be 'purple') or is missing and could be added.

    6 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on an older version of Bonaparte's Gulls, Bowdoin National Wildlife Refuge, Northeast Montana, USA:

    @Rob Mutch: They're Franklin's Gulls - note the wingtip pattern

    6 months ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "Morphology":

    superseeded

    6 months ago