Cyndy Parr

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    Cyndy Parr changed the thumbnail image of "File:Tri-colored heron.jpg".

    over 2 years ago

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    петя спасова commented on "Taxon Clean-Up To Do List":

    @Cyndy Parr: i am going to add things to in the taxon clean up list.

    over 2 years ago

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    Katja Schulz added "Aethes oenotherana Riley 1881" to the collection "Taxon Clean-Up Tasks Completed".

    over 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: How are these distinguished in wikimedia Taxonavigation boxes? Do people put Subspecies | salzmannii, Variatas | mongolica, etc. or do they list the whole thing out, as
    Subspecies | Pinus nigra salzmannii
    Variatas | Pinus sylvestris mongolica
    I'm assuming that they don't physically insert the "subs." text themselves, but the template does it for them? Also, can you have both a subspecies and a variety? If so, in the Taxonav box do you put Subspecies | Pinus nigra salzmannii, Variatas | Pinus nigra salzmannii albus? And then how do we cope if we get something like this within a single Taxonav box?
    Subspecies | salzmannii
    Variatas | Pinus nigra albus
    I.e. do we have to insert the salzmannii between the nigra and the albus in this case?

    over 2 years ago • edited: over 2 years ago

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    over 2 years ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks! Unfortunately I don't understand all the computer coding (not my thing, I fear), but if it works, good. The difference between zoology and botany is that zoology only has one infraspecific rank (subspecies), so a subspecific name doesn't need any clarification other than having three names; thus e.g. Dendrocopos major pinetorum. Conversely, in botany, there are three infraspecific ranks, in order of decreasing distinction: subspecies (subsp.; for major differences in a species), varietas (var.; for medium differences), forma (f.; very small differences); of these the first two are widely used, forma rather less so. Because of the different ranks, it is essential to state which rank is being used, thus e.g. Pinus nigra subsp. salzmannii; Pinus sylvestris var. mongolica; Abies veitchii f. chlorocarpa. For definitions of the ranks, see e.g. definitions in Table 12.1 in Stuessy (2009), Principles of Plant Taxonomy (p. 158, available on google books).

    over 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "Taxon Clean-Up To Do List":

    @Katja Schulz: Oh, and if you *really* have some free time (!), I seem to be getting identical images for Alouatta nigerrima / Alouatta belzebul, Naemorhedus caudatus / Naemorhedus griseus, and Hapalemur alaotrensis / Hapalemur griseus. I think these are all cases where the taxonomy is in a bit of flux though, so perhaps my database of separate species is wrong. Either way, they are of lower priority, I reckon.

    over 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: I had a bit of time before bed last night, and think I've managed to sort out some code for subspecies (not done anything for varieties).

    Let me ask you if I've taken a sensible approach. I take the wiki groups and map them to EoL groups, down to genus level, trimming the word "fossil" from start of the name if necessary. For genus names, I trim the name to the first word (to catch e.g. "Genus = Rosa spp"). For higher levels, I ignore anything with spaces in the name (I can't think of any cases where names above the species level consist of multiple words, apart from class="xxx Proteobacteria", for which there's a specific exception coded. I might be missing some viral stuff by doing this, I guess).
    For species and (now) subspecies, I check if the name consists of multiple words the first of which starts with a capital letter. If so, I take the first word as a genus name, if no genus has already been set. Otherwise, if the name is a single word, I take this as an epithet, and prepend the genus name (for a species) or the species name (for a subspecies).
    Finally, the EoL "scientificName" is chosen as the lowest level for which we have a name (i.e. choose subsp if it exists, otherwise sp, otherwise genus, etc), with the authority (if it exists) appended at the end of the entire name.

    Will this procedure cope with formatting differences between botany and zoology? I'm unclear how to deal with varieties in this scheme: any ideas?

    over 2 years ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks! I fear the github code means nothing to me :-( but if it can be adapted to add subspecies (used in both botany and zoology, but formatted differently in the two groups) and varietas (used in botany only), that would be a great help. Hybrids are less important, and I'd not bother to add cultivars (very few have commons pages with taxonav., and they are also of very minor significance for EoL).

    over 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "Taxon Clean-Up To Do List":

    @Katja Schulz: Ah, I just remembered that I spotted another primate problem, but I asked about it on the forums rather than (where I should have done) here. It's to do with Ateles spider monkeys. I'm no expert on this, so it might take some unraveling. The details are at http://eol.org/forums/12/topics/78/posts/256 if you want to check out what is going on.

    over 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: Oh, and I see from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Taxonavigation that there are a number of other subspecific terms that might be used (Hybrid, Cultivar, Varietas, etc), so I think it might turn out to be a bit complicated. Nowhere does it explicitly mention Subspecies as a potential parameter, although it does implicitly when talking about "intermediate ranks". I suspect that the previous version of the harvester may have missed out subspecies too.

    over 2 years ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Michаel Frаnkis: At the moment the harvester does the following mapping from wiki names to EoL names "Species" => "species", "Genus" => "genus", "Familia" => "family", "Ordo" => "order", "Classis" => "class", "Phylum" => "phylum", "Regnum" => "kingdom" It then constructs the EoL "scientific name" using the most precisely defined of these terms, with some messing around to get the genus + epithet + authority (if present). Conspicuously absent is anything to do with subspecies.

    The code is at https://github.com/EOL/eol_php_code/blob/master/vendor/wikipedia/WikimediaPage.php#L1002 if you want to take a look!

    over 2 years ago • edited: over 2 years ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "EOL Curators":

    Odd, as the taxonavigation is correctly formatted in both the category and gallery. Perhaps something else on the pages is blocking the harvest? Maybe Yan can sort it?

    over 2 years ago