Cyndy Parr

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    Jakob Fahr commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: Any solution for getting the iNat picture harvest going again?

    about 2 hours ago

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    Jakob Fahr commented on "EOL Curators":

    Hi everyone! I've added a bunch of synonymies and proposed changes, could someone carry these out where deemed appropriate? http://eol.org/users/77958/newsfeed/comments

    4 days ago

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    Jennifer Hammock commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    Either photo is a perfectly suitable exemplar. They were taken less than 100 miles apart, one at a breeding center, the other in a reserve. Since nobody has identified either photo to subspecies level, the identifiability issue is not very compelling, but even if both remain identified to species only, both still have value. One shows habitat well, the other shows features well. Neither shows dentition, the first thing an evolutionary researcher may wish to see, so I am grateful we also have the nice annotated dentition image. Regardless of which is the exemplar, it is most useful to have a variety of images on the overview tab, providing complementary information.

    4 days ago

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    Jennifer Hammock commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    University of Michigan Museum of Zoology, specimen acquired from the Detroit Zoo

    4 days ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "Retag as map type":

    @Deniz Martinez: Fair enough. I should probably set up some sort of automated process so you can pass in a set of EoL pictures from wikicommons and have them all automatically tagged as a particular category on commons. No time to do that yet though.

    4 days ago

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    Deniz Martinez commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    But since it IS currently still a single species, then for the present all these photos are satisfactory to identify that single species, are they not? It's true that taxonomy is not static, especially these days, but it would still seem simpler to OK photos based on the *current* status of the taxon rather than trying to guess what the *future* status might end up being. But, perhaps more importantly, as scientifically valuable as that other camera trap photo may be, the fact remains that it's a low-quality image, with the animal itself somewhat blurry. It's hardly a "five-star" image, which is what an exemplar photo is ideally supposed to be per the curation guidelines. I still respectfully submit that a high-quality image that happens to be from a zoo should trump a low-quality image that happens to be from the wild, within this narrow context of an exemplar image on what is an open-access, web-based public resource (as opposed to a strictly professional scientific database).

    4 days ago

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    Deniz Martinez commented on "Retag as map type":

    @Yan Wong: Sorry that there has been such an influx over the past couple days...what I've been doing is mass scanning through all the pages in the media section for each order in Mammalia and adding every map I find to the collection here, as opposed to checking individual images over on Wikimedia Commons for tags. Chiroptera alone has 150 pages of media, and that's just one order of dozens that I've been through...I usually just work as the finder not the fixer. ;)

    4 days ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on Michаel Frаnkis's newsfeed:

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan - sorry, I don't have any experience of virus classification, so wouldn't know how to construct a taxonavigation for it at Commons.

    4 days ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    Sorry, I have to disagree there. First, the animal is not in its natural surrounds, it is in a habitat it wouldn't be seen dead in, let alone alive. Second, and more important, it is of unknown provenance. Ailurus is currently treated as a single species with two allopatric subspecies; should future research conclude that it should be divided into two (or more) taxa at species rank (a very possible scenario, that has occurred with numerous other species recently), then these zoo images become (because of their unknown provenance) untrustable, unidentifiable Ailurus species: in effect, worthless. A wild specimen with location is however identifiable by its location, and therefore, valuable.

    4 days ago

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    Deniz Martinez commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    Exemplar images should "best represent the taxon both biologically...and aesthetically" (from the EOL curator guidelines). Zoo photos are perfectly acceptable, and sometimes even superior in cases where few high-quality images from the wild exist. The fact that a photo was taken out in the wild does not automatically make it preferable as an exemplar image here; and indeed many of the wild photos of this particular taxon are of camera-trap quality and simply do not provide a clear detailed view of the animal itself. All IMHO of course...every curator has their own preferences and the exemplar will always be whatever the last curator to visit the page decided to change it to. :)

    4 days ago

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    Sarah Miller commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: Thank you.

    5 days ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Sarah Miller: Yikes, thanks Sarah. It looks like the last harvest got stuck. I'll see if we can get this going again.

    5 days ago

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    Sarah Miller commented on "EOL Curators":

    I was just browsing and noticed that the i naturalist image collection (http://eol.org/collections/36789) has not been updated in 4 months. Any suggestions on how to refresh that collection.

    5 days ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "Retag as map type":

    @Deniz Martinez: Hi - just for future reference, if you add the category "Chiroptera distribution maps" to these images on wikimedia commons, they will get automatically tagged as maps on EoL in a week or two. I'm doing that now for the 20 or so you added to the Retag as map type collection.

    5 days ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on Michаel Frаnkis's newsfeed:

    @Yan Wong: Hi Yan - I'm not sure where the vernaculars are stored in wikidata either; it might be better to harvest them from the Commons categories, if that can be done. Though how reliable they are is another matter - en:wiki at least has a ridiculous policy on names that all must be given equal prominence, whether they are the official standard name that everyone uses, or some archaic variant that got dredged out of a 17th century book and never used since. So I'd certainly not trust en:wiki as a safe source.

    7 days ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "Michаel Frаnkis":

    Hi Michael - I think you get involved in wikimedia stuff don't you. I was wondering if EoL should be trying to harvest common names from wikidata, as I think is done by https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:VN The only problem is, I can't see where the common names are stored on the wikidata site. Do you know?

    7 days ago

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    Jennifer Hammock commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    I don't know, Michael. Doesn't the scientific value of the photo depend on the question?

    9 days ago

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    Phil Myers commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    Actually, those teeth are from a real animal, a specimen acquired from the Detroit Zoo.

    10 days ago

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    Michаel Frаnkis commented on "Ailurus fulgens":

    @Rob Mutch: Hi Rob - photographically a good pic, but I don't think it's a good idea to have plastic zoo junk without source data (or subspecies information) and out of natural habitat set as an exemplar, when we do have some photos of natural specimens in the wild with locations; these are of infinitely higher scientific value ;-)

    10 days ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Curators":

    @Katja Schulz: Thanks Katya. Dromius univestis isn't IRMNG as far as I can tell, only GBIF, but perhaps what you said also applies to GBIF. Also the last example I gave is a case where another source (biolib.cz) has the data too, but the IRMNG name still isn't imported, but maybe the biolib import happened after the IRMNG one? Incidentally, I'm hitting these when trying to map OpenTree IDs to EoL page IDs (http://yanwong.me/?page_id=1268)

    10 days ago