EOL Discussion Group

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Mohsen Amini: Etymology might help but isn't always easy to find. I have a book that says that ""milio" is related to a kind of hawk or kite. But "milium" is related to millet or grain. "Lida" might have to do with a cap. I don't know anything about forams to know if this makes sense for that group.

    about 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Bart C.: No, sorry, we don't yet have a way to batch upload a list of taxa to a collection, other than creating a content partner. If you send us a list we can do it for you.

    about 1 year ago

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    Bart C. commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: It has been some time (8 months apparently), so just want to check if anything is moving/moved around uploading a batch of taxa into a collection? The suggestion to take the 'content partner' approach seemed a bit too much, so I preferred to wait for some time.

    about 1 year ago

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    Mohsen Amini commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    hey all. I'm learning about foraminifera now. have a problem memorize the names cause too many as u know. so i think if i have the etymology it will help a lot to memorize. but i could not find for lots of them. for example what is the meaning of Miliolida?

    about 1 year ago

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    about 1 year ago

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    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Corvi Zeman: Just saw the conversation about Dipus halli and Dipus sagitta. Best thing might be to add a brief article for D. sagitta with the subject "Taxonomy" that indicates that Sowerby, Wilson & Reeder, and other sources (cite them) list D. halli as a synonym. That might help the searching. Meanwhile, I'll send a notice to ITIS because we get Wilson & Reeder from them and they should have the synonym but don't appear to.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    Hey folks -- new feature! You can type a person's name into the search box and get results where that person gets attribution for a multimedia or text object. Finally you can find all of your own stuff!

    over 1 year ago

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    Corvi Zeman commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: Thank you, I will add шилийн савгадай to Dipus sagitta. There's no way to add "Dipus halli" or send people to Dipus sagitta if they search for Dipus halli, correct?

    over 1 year ago • edited: over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Corvi Zeman: Thanks for adding all those Mongolian names. This is really valuable. Wilson & Reeder, the standard reference for mammals, have only one species, Dipus sagitta, for this genus. They list D. halli as a synonym.

    over 1 year ago

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    Corvi Zeman commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    Please excuse me if this is the wrong place for this question. I have been adding Mongolian-language common names to EOL species. A Mongolian-language source gives the scientific name of шилийн савгадай ("rock-crest jerboa") as Dipus halli (source: Sowerby 1920). Dipus halli does not seem to be in EOL. I found a "Dipus sagitta halli" in some other online sources, but it is also not listed in EOL. Am I overlooking something?

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: The Wikimedia import sometimes fails in mysterious ways. It could be that {{PD-self}} is not on our license whitelist. I'll file a ticket to check for this.

    over 1 year ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    I can't quite see why this image: from the commons gallery http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trichechus_inunguis isn't being harvested (the other two pictures in the gallery have been). It seems to be tagged with {{PD-self}}, which should be enough, I would have thought

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Patrick has been away but now he's back and might want to talk about this -- perhaps move discussion to http://eol.org/forums?

    over 1 year ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: Thanks. I've had a look at the codebase on github - I guess I could probably figure out a patch, but best left to people who really know how the system works (seems like Patrick Leary from looking at the code :). Shout if you want me to have a go.

    over 1 year ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks for explaining that the rotation is saved in the EXIF metadata. As Katja says, we'll put in the request. I'm a bit more hopeful -- this doesn't seem like it would be too hard to address.

    over 1 year ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: Yes, of course. I can see this is quite low priority. Lots of other important stuff to do. Good luck!

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks for the suggestion. I'll add it to our list of feature request, but I wouldn't hold out much hope for this to get addressed anytime soon. There are too many more urgent requests in the pipeline.

    over 1 year ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: Thanks. I've just checked and the original images were rotated correctly, but the rotation was done by setting the EXIF rotation metadata (see e.g. http://www.daveperrett.com/articles/2012/07/28/exif-orientation-handling-is-a-ghetto/). This metadata seems to be stripped out by EoL, not by Flickr. You can check because the original image on Flickr contains the correct rotation information (download if from http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3757/8812291168_ce56ecf228_o.jpg and have a look). I can re-upload my images on Flickr so that they are rotated without using the EXIF rotation hints, but I guess other people might get bitten by this too, as many cameras seem to use this way of rotating pictures. Maybe it should be on the (long) to-do list to get the image import routines in EoL to save a fully rotated image (as specified in the metadata) as the local EoL copy?

    over 1 year ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: The original images you uploaded were probably incorrectly rotated, and they got auto-rotated by Flickr. However, we download the originals from Flickr, so we get the incorrectly rotated ones. Unfortunately we don't have a solution for this problem right now, so we have to ask our contributors to upload correctly rotated images to Flickr.

    over 1 year ago