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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: Ah - sorry. Didn't see that. Commons doesn't allow -NC either, so chances are we'd miss out on some of the more scientific vids if we rely on that route.

    about 1 month ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: NoDeriv licenses are not compatible with the EOL licensing policy: http://eol.org/info/eol_licensing_policy So unfortunately, this video if off limits for us. Videos from open access papers usually come to us through Wikimedia Commons.

    about 1 month ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    Is there any way I can get a video like this amazing hagfish one from Nature (http://www.nature.com/srep/2011/111027/srep00131/full/srep00131.html) onto the EoL page for Eptatretus cirrhatus? They are marked with CC-BY-NC-ND in the paper.

    about 1 month ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Ah yes, that was an atavism. A link to a tool that ceased functioning a while ago. Removed now, Thanks!

    2 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    More dead links: the "Wikipedia import" link on the sidebar of http://eol.org/info/curate_wiki and similar pages. This can simply be removed.

    2 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: Given that .webm is the preferred format for wikipedia / wikimedia videos, I suspect it should be OK. The annoying thing is that it won't play in Safari or IE at the moment. But it's being pushed by Google as the format of choice.

    2 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Thanks, I have reported the broken link to the people in charge of the YouTube channel. We don't transform the videos we ingest, so whether or not an EOL visitor can play a given video will depend on what browser they use. I have no idea how well .webm is supported. If it plays in recent versions of Chrome, IE on Windows, and Safari on Mac, we should probably import these videos since they will work for most visitors. We've discussed putting a disclaimer on video & sound pages since we cannot guarantee that all media will play for all users.

    2 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    On http://eol.org/info/contribute there's a section which says "If you post videos to YouTube, you can share them with us simply by tagging and licensing them appropriately; check out our instructions for this.", but the link to "instructions" is broken.

    I spotted this when looking for what video types were acceptable for upload, although I can't find that listed anywhere. There are 250 taxonomic videos on Wikimedia in webm format which EoL is currently rejecting, on the assumption that .webm isn't supported.

    2 months ago • edited: 2 months ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: yes,katja i upload images with persmission.

    3 months ago • edited: 3 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @петя спасова: Note that you cannot simply take images from the web and upload them to EOL or Flickr. You can only upload your own images, images that are in the public domain, or images where the copyright owner has given permission for redistribution. You can add common names to a species in the Names tab. Is that what you mean?

    3 months ago

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    петя спасова commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    the eol flickr roup isgreat thanks for adding images from there to the site. i only add images if its possible only from the web,if i had time to upload.how can i add a name to a species.

    3 months ago

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    Yan Wong commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Katja Schulz: Ah - that explains it. Glad to have spotted it. Cheers.

    5 months ago

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    Katja Schulz commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Yan Wong: Oops, this was keeping track of marine stats based on the WoRMS hierarchy. I think the WoRMS connector was redone and we forgot to update the code for this page. I'll put in a ticket to get this done. Thanks!

    5 months ago

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    Sam Owens commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Nicole Yancy-Bowzer: Well, if we aren't animals, then we certainly aren't vertebrates, because all vertebrates are animals. And if we're not animals, then we're not amniotes...and we're definitely not mammals! I hope my jest is obvious. I agree with you that the issue is semantic; what I mean is it depends on if you're asking a taxonomist or, say, a philosopher. Botanists have the same argument with chefs that insist upon categorizing tomatoes, cucumbers, etc. as vegetables and not fruit. I say that we are animals, and we should be proud of it!

    5 months ago

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    Nicole Yancy-Bowzer commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    There is a debate concerning humans being animals. In the Webster dictionary, animals are defined as living creatures not human or plant. Another view point is that humans belong to the Animalia Kingdom deeming humans as animals. The rebuttal to this argument is that when the word animal came to language, humans were assumed to be their own alternative species therefore not classified as an animal. After such time, the Animalia Kingdom was derived from the same Latin word. The word animal derives from a Latin word animalia meaning "of breath" however, now we have learned not all animals have a breath. Others believe that these 6 kingdoms classify living organisms by their characteristic similarities and since humans poses mental characteristics not found in other animals, there would have been a seventh kingdom if our technology today existed when the kingdoms were created. The question of the day is, since humans belong to the Animalia Kingdom, are they indeed animals or by technical definition of the word animal, can we be classified as an Animalia but not an animal until we change the definition in the dictionary?

    5 months ago • edited: 5 months ago

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    John P. Sullivan joined the community "EOL Discussion Group".

    6 months ago

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    abdul qayyum joined the community "EOL Discussion Group".

    8 months ago

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    Cyndy Parr commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Mohsen Amini: The book that I have is pretty useful -- it is Jaegers A source-book of biological names and terms and here is a review: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC200911/?page=1 It looks like inexpensive used copies of this book are not difficult to find.

    8 months ago

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    Mohsen Amini commented on "EOL Discussion Group":

    @Cyndy Parr: oh thanks a lot. i probably should search more for that :) anyway there is a book "The Etymological Dictionary of Earth Science" by Matt Horrigan about 400 pages. maybe it has good information. but i could not find any review or anything about it's content. you don't know nothing about that book? :/

    8 months ago